NIH All About
Grants Podcast: Keeping your Eye on the Prize...Competition
David Kosub
>> Keeping your
eyes on the
prize. You've heard that
statement before, but what
does that actually mean
here at NIH?
And what kind
of research is
actually supported with prize competitions?
Join us for
this episode of
the NIH All
About Grants podcast
to learn more
about prizes.
>> From
the National Institutes
of Health in
Bethesda, Maryland. This is
all about grants.
Kosub >> All right. Well,
welcome to the show.
I am glad
to say that
we have with
us Doctor Taylor
Gilliland. He is the
NIH Challenge Manager
here within the
NIH Office of
the Director. And
he's going to
tell us all
about prizes, which are a separate thing
than grants for
this All About
Grants podcast. Welcome to
the show, Taylor.
Taylor Gilliland >> Well, thanks so much for
having me. Really excited
to be here
and to share
some information with
your audience.
Kosub >> All right. So let's just set
the set the
stage. What is a
challenge competition or a prize competition
anyways.
Gilliland >> Yeah I mean
great question to start us off with.
So first of all,
you know, a
challenge aka prize competition,
you know, at
NIH we use
those two terms
interchangeably. You know it
can really best be
described as an open
innovation mechanism whereby solutions
to problems are
crowdsourced from the public,
and then the
best solutions are
awarded a prize. And
usually that's in the
form of a
cash payment or
honorable recognition or other
kinds of support.
You know, the
challenges have really been
used for centuries.
You know, we
think of them
relatively new at NIH,
but they've been
used for hundreds
of years in
both public and
private sectors to really
engage broad audiences, coming
up with creative,
unanticipated solutions to vexing
or challenging problems
that an individual
organization or, in this
case, a government
agency is facing. You
know, NIH has
formally had the statutory
authority to launch challenges
since 2010, and
we've used that
mechanism more than 100
times since to
achieve, you know, a
wide variety of
goals, like generating innovative
ideas for, let's
say, a new
strategic scientific direction, developing
and demonstrating health technologies
like medical diagnostic
devices, informing and educating
the public about
important health topics like
the importance of
rare disease research,
and engaging new
people and communities and then building their capacity to
contribute to NIH funded
research. So it's a
pretty broad description, but
I think we'll
get into more
of the details
as we go
along.
Kosub >Yeah, definitely want to
get into a
lot of those
details. And for centuries,
I should have
caught the podcast about
like 300 years
ago. That would
have been helpful.
Uh, but, uh,
I mentioned these
are not grants.
They're not contracts. They're
something completely separate. You mentioned a statutory
authority. It's something different
that allows us
to fund research.
So how are
they similar or
are they similar?
How are they
different from what a
traditional grant is here
at NIH?
Gilliland >> Yeah. So
I like to
describe challenges as just
another tool within our
toolbox of mechanisms here
at NIH to
help achieve our
overall mission of optimizing
health and preventing or
reducing illness for all
people. And so in that
toolbox, you have challenges,
of course, grants,
contracts, cooperative agreements, maybe even other transactions awards.
These are all
different tools that we
can pull out
and utilize to
solve different problems that, uh, you know,
are within our
agency's mission here at
NIH. But that's
maybe where some
of the similarities
kind of end,
because challenges really contribute
to the NIH
mission in a significantly
different manner. So grants I
like to describe
as an innovation
push mechanism, you
are giving funds
to an institution,
uh, to be
implemented by a PI,
and they are
awarded prospectively, um, to support
those researchers in attempting to accomplish certain
scientific or technological objectives that
are set forth
by the investigator,
typically as specific aims
in a grant
application. A grant awards
those funds up
front, and NIH really
takes on the
risk if those
specific aims are not
accomplished. And there's also,
of course, regulations
and requirements as
to how those
grant funds can
be used. Of
course, you know, challenges
in one way
really flip that completely
on its head,
instead of a push
mechanism they're an innovation pull
or inducement mechanism
that retrospectively, not prospectively,
but after the
fact, awards cash
prizes to innovators who
successfully accomplished the objectives that
are typically set
forth by NIH.
So it is the
participant in a challenge
who really absorbs
that risk of
failure. You know, what's
really important with the prize
competition is that prizes
are not awarded
if no one
delivers a solution that
meets the criteria
to win. Also an
important distinction is that
cash prizes that
challenge awards they are
unrestricted. They can be
used for really
any purpose and
there's no reporting requirements.
So that's just
some of the
ways in which
a challenge is
different from a grant.
But they both,
again, are tools in
that metaphorical toolbox
at NIH that
we use to
advance our mission.
Kosub >> Yeah, I like that push
and pull metaphor.
That's like that's how
I teach my
kid how to
climb a ladder
so I can
use that. Um,
you started off
you mentioned a
couple of examples of
prize competition. There was
over 100 since
we've started working on these. Can you
perhaps tell us a
bit more, give
a couple more
examples and tell us,
like who, who
is or who
was in certain
situations if it's closed.
Like who was eligible
to, um, submit
an idea?
Gilliland >> Great. Yeah. So it's hard, um,
amongst our vast portfolio
of prize competitions,
they really have
ranged and been so
diverse, which is such
a strength of
this mechanism, is
that you can
use it to
tackle a wide variety
of different problems.
Okay. Let's get
down to specifics.
So for example, um,
right now, actually
I am really
lucky to be
running a couple different
prize competitions, all leveraging
what we call
our Rapid Acceleration
of Diagnostics Technology or RADx Tech
program. And each of
these three different
challenges are focused on
helping innovators, technology developers, spinouts,
small companies, academic investigators
take a prototype
diagnostic device or monitoring
technology or other kind
of, you know,
maybe in vitro
assay and actually mature
along the development
pathway to address a
specific clinical need. So we
have our RADx Tech
for Maternal Health challenge for
postpartum monitoring devices. We
have our RADx
Tech Fetal Monitoring Challenge to
improve the monitoring and
diagnosis of fetal health
conditions in utero. We
have our RADx Tech
ACT ENDO challenge, which is going to be
a technology accelerator
for new ways
and noninvasive approaches
to diagnosing and
monitoring endometriosis. So those are
big tech development,
tech accelerator type
challenges that we're running.
There are a
couple other different ones
that are ongoing
at that scale.
You know, millions
of dollars in
cash prizes available,
multiple years, multiple phases.
But then the
other end of
the spectrum, we
have challenges that
are designed to
engage real nontraditional audiences. Um, smaller dollar challenges
where we're opening up
to anyone in
the country that
has really good
ideas of how
we could better
communicate certain aspects of
public health information or
better, um, engage nonprofit,
community-based organizations. So a really
great challenge that just wrapped up that
our Eunice Kennedy
Shriver National Institute of
Child Health and
Human Development, or NICHD,
they ran a
multi-year, multi-phase challenge called Connecting
the Community for
Maternal Health Challenge. That
was all about
How do we
help small, nonprofit,
community-based organizations develop the infrastructure and expertise to
participate in NIH funded
grant research. So it's a
great way, actually,
of how a
prize competition was being leveraged to help
those who normally
wouldn't apply for an
NIH grant to
develop the expertise and
experience and, um, kind
of build up
the infrastructure they would need to partner
with other institutions
or be able
to directly apply
for funding, um,
from NIH. So,
you know, it's
really hard to try
and capture everything
from small $5,000
challenges to multi-year, $10
million competitions and everything in
between. But that might
just be a
few examples that
come to mind.
Kosub >> Yeah, definitely.
Definitely a lot going
on in this
space. Uh, definitely. Cool to hear about
the, uh, you
kind of hit
on some of
this when for
at least from
the NIH side,
these prizes help
de-risk a lot of
the research interests
from NIH. And
but what other
kind of benefits
does it have
for NIH or
the wider research
community, or even the
public, for that matter?
Gilliland >>
Well, you know,
I think for
a win-win
for both the
public and for NIH
is that prize
competitions really are great
at kind of
going beyond our
usual suspects and kind of increasing the
number and diversity of
solvers that are tackling
a problem that
at NIH and
our, our, um,
our collaborators have identified.
So the challenges really
significantly lower that administrative
barrier to engaging with
NIH. Um, and
for some challenges the only requirement to
compete and win a
cash prize is
that you have to be
a US citizen
or permanent resident or entity based in the
United States, and then
we can also
award prizes to
individuals, not just institutions.
So it allows us
to be able
to directly engage
with folks like
for some recent
challenges, you know, middle
school science teachers, high
school and undergraduate students directly,
community based nonprofit organizations
like I just
mentioned. Um, folks who
otherwise wouldn't necessarily have
the resources to
be eligible to
apply for and
receive and manage an
NIH grant or
contract so we can
bring in those
experts from um fields
and disciplines that
usually are not supported
by NIH funded
research, as well as
incentivize the private sector
to come in
and participate in
competitions. Because we really again, it lowers
that barrier to
entry, um, diversifies who
can contribute to
NIH funded research.
And so that's
why it's a it's a win
for us and
for the public.
We're able to
engage a much broader
audience.
Kosub >> Yeah, I, I truly appreciate
that. It's everyone's
available to to participate in
these prizes in
some situations, which
I think is
very cool and
gets people better
familiar with what NIH
is. Um, and
I love calling
them solvers. I
think that's super
cool. Um, but,
you know, you
kind of hit
on this with
the engagement with
some of the
public. Um, how do
people actually find these
prize competitions? You know,
it's like they're,
you know, they
may not be
familiar with the NIH
guide, even if they
might even appear.
The prize competitions
might even appear
on there. Um,
can you tell
us more about
how people can
find them and
how we promote
them?
Gilliland >> Yeah. Of course. I mean,
the great thing
is, is that
there is a
one stop shop
for not just
NIH challenges, but
challenges being conducted by
a wide variety
of different federal
agencies. And that's challenge.gov
pretty easy to remember.
Challenge.gov. And that is
where you can
go and find
out what are
all of the open
competitions going on, not
just in which
you can easily
filter for, but other
federal agencies as well,
like NASA and
National Science Foundation and
Department of Energy, Department
of Defense. It's
really incredible to see the
really diverse ways in
which this open
innovation mechanism is being
utilized across the entire
government. So that's kind
of your best
place to go
to find out
about NIH prize
competitions again is Challenge.gov.
And then depending
upon who the
intended solver or participant
audience is, you know,
each NIH institute
and center that
launches a prize competition
will craft their
own, um, targeted
outreach strategy and to make sure
that the intended
solver audience finds out
about it. But
challenge.gov one stop shop.
Best place to
go.
Kosub >> Uh, definitely
one stop shop. You
mentioned money. There was
like ten millions or millions of dollars worth of
prizes and other sort
of incentives. Can
you tell us
more about what
these incentives are and, you know, if
they are financial?
I think you
even hinted at
it could be
they could go
directly to the person
and not the
not the institution.
Can you speak
more to that?
Gilliland >> Yeah, absolutely.
So again, big
difference with a grant is
that a prize
competition for the most
part, and the vast
majority of competitions we
run at NIH, they
do offer a
cash prize, and
that is a
direct transfer of funds
out of the
US Treasury into
your, in some
cases, your personal bank
account or to your
company's account or to
your institution's account. So they are an unrestricted
cash prize. A
winner can use them
for whatever purpose
that they want.
Um, there are
no reporting requirements.
There's
no strings attached.
Uh, they are
a reward for
having delivered something to
NIH. Uh, delivered
something that not only
met the objectives,
but were the
best out of
all the competitors
that enter into a
challenge. So, um, they
are typically challengs awarded direct cash prize. Now,
there are other
kind of non-cash
incentives or rewards, whether
that be an
honorable mention or some
of our art
challenges or graphic design
challenges. NIH will feature
the award-winning
work on our
websites and promotional materials.
We'll showcase winning solutions
at conferences and
meetings and workshops, so
lots of different
ways to get
recognition. And then in
some of our
challenges, there are lots
of built in,
kind of like
pro bono support,
for example, in
those technology development prize
competitions I run each
of our innovators
across all the phases
of the challenge
will get free
wraparound subject matter consultant
support. So let's say
if you need
some help understanding,
what are the,
for example, the
FDA regulatory requirements
for your particular
class of medical
device, and in our prize
competition you're able to get
free consultant support
to help you
and your company
and your startup
better understand the regulatory
landscape and requirements. Just one example. Or in
that Connecting the
Community for Maternal Health
Challenge, the nonprofit groups
participating in that one
had a multitude
of webinars and
training and guidance, one
on one from
NIH and others
on how to
apply for a
grant from NIH,
how to manage
receipt, how to design
really effective, um, uh,
you know, clinical
research studies or community
based research studies, etc.. So lots
of ways it's
not just the
cash prize, um,
that can be
an inducement to
participate, but depending on
the challenge, lots
of this kind
of wraparound support,
if you will.
Kosub >> Yeah. So
you're giving our audience
a lot to
be, to be
thinking about if especially
if they're just
getting exposed to prizes.
Um, what what would
you what is
your advice if
someone is just wanting
to get started
and, you know,
in this whole
world.
Gilliland >> Well, I mean, that's just
to keep, um, an open
mind. I mean,
everyone listening to this
podcast right now, you
have some type
of idea, um,
you bring your
creativity, bring your perspectives,
bring that intellect,
and be thinking
creatively and outside the
box of how
you could contribute
that to solving
problems, either within the
kinds of NIH
domains you're used to
or even, you
know, when you
look on Challenge.gov,
you'll see a lot
else that's going
on out there
that could really
benefit from your expertise.
Um, so I
guess my recommendation
would be, you
know, think broadly
about how you
could contribute to solving, um, uh, you
know, problems broadly in the science and
technology space. And think
about how you
can do that,
um, with a
low barrier way
by participating in competitions.
And, you know,
of course, I
really care about the
ones sponsored by
NIH, but also,
um, in relation
to other federal
agencies as well. So,
um, be open
minded, realize you bring
a lot to
the table to
solve problems both within your particular scientific or clinical domain and then
far beyond as
well.
Kosub >> Yeah, yeah, definitely check out NIH prizes
first, then go to
the other agencies.
Gilliland> >>Yes. Yes.
Of course.
Kosub >> Um, so,
Taylor, this has been
great to learn
more about prizes
and challenge competitions.
Um, before we
go, I always
like to leave
the opportunity for
our guests to
to say any final
thoughts?
Is there anything
you'd like to
leave our audience
about? Prize competitions?
Gilliland >> Um, you know, if you're
a typical, um,
member of, of kind
of the NIH
funded research ecosystem, you
know, when you
think about it,
participating in a challenge,
you can kind
of take everything
you know about
your standard way
of engaging with
NIH and kind
of just gently
set that off
to the side.
And then when
you come to
an NIH sponsored
challenge, you can think
about it as
something completely new and
different how you engage,
how you participate,
the type of
solutions you might be
providing. It could be
a very different
experience than maybe what
you're used to. So
again, if you kind
of come into
that with that
creativity, that open mindset,
um, I think,
you know, everyone
listening here will be
able to find
some challenge that
they're like, yes, I
can contribute my
ideas, my solution, my
technology, my new approach.
Um, or just,
you know, my
new ideas. And
we run competitions
where we're just
looking for really good
ideas about new
strategic research directions. So,
um, uh, you
know, I just
encourage you to, to
keep your eyes
open for competitions
and prizes that,
uh, you might
want to participate
in. And don't
be shy and
and, uh, please
do, um, uh,
participate.
Kosub >> Well, Taylor, I truly appreciate
it. Thank you
very much for
sharing your thoughts on
prize competitions. You know,
to reiterate, check
out Challenge.gov. That's your basically your one
stop shop for
finding a whole bunch
of information about
prizes. You know, you
can also reach
out to program
staff here if
there's a competition you've
heard about and
want to learn
a bit more,
definitely reach out to those
folks as well.
This has been
David Kosub with
today's edition of All
About Prizes. Thank you.